the question is, which romney are voters going to get? which romney would they elect. the liberal one who ran for senate in '94, the pragmatic governor, the candidate of this year's gop primary? all politicians change positions over time. his changes raise questions over his core principles and make the details all the more troubling. would he stand-up to his own party, especially house republicans who undercut ohioan john boehner's attempts. how do you respond to that? >> look at his record. the guy created jobs. he's a job creator. we need that. jobs are the greatest moral issue when people are working, families are stronger. number two, he was governor of massachusetts. they went from deficits to surpluses from job loss to job creation. then you look at the olympics where he was a pure leader. look at his history. it tells you who he is. he's pragmatic, no question about it. he's also tough, firm and understands job creation. in terms of people not getting him, the first debate, i have never seen a debate have this much impact. the first debate gave people the chanc